The Just City

The Just City

eBook - 2015
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"Here in the Just City you will become your best selves. You will learn and grow and strive to be excellent." Created as an experiment by the time-traveling goddess Pallas Athene, the Just City is a planned community, populated by over ten thousand children and a few hundred adult teachers from all eras of history, along with some handy robots from the far human future—all set down together on a Mediterranean island in the distant past.The student Simmea, born an Egyptian farmer's daughter sometime between 500 and 1000 A.D, is a brilliant child, eager for knowledge, ready to strive to be her best self. The teacher Maia was once Ethel, a young Victorian lady of much learning and few prospects, who prayed to Pallas Athene in an ungaurded moment during a trip to Rome—and, in an instant, found herself in the Just City with grey-eyed Athene standing unmistakably before her.Meanwhile, Apollo—stunned by the realization that there are things...
Publisher: 2015
ISBN: 9781466800823

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kwylie04
Sep 27, 2019

This... was a trip. I mean, when I picked this up after the title caught my eye at the library and decided it sounded intriguing enough to take home with me, I was not expecting what I found. And I think that is perhaps what made this book such an... interesting read.

Now, let it be said that I have never read Plato's 'Republic' in any form. I know practically nothing about it. So looking at this society that these people were attempting to build as described in the story, I, as a modern-day person, found it weird, to say the least, or problematic, at worst. Which also made me mildly disbelieving that a couple of modern-day people who ended up as part of this "experiment" would actually be okay with helping build this kind of community.

Overall, what I felt throughout this book was, strange as it probably sounds, a sense of 'monotone', and yet with a small electric current running through it, just enough to keep me engaged and not want to throw my hands up in frustration and move onto something else. I found the three main characters - Ethel/Maia, Simmea, and Pytheas/Apollo (yes, that Apollo) - each to be a little bizarre in their own ways, and yet also compelling. It is perhaps from them that the electric current I described comes from, as they each deal with the challenges and tribulations that come their way. Oh, and also - Sokrates? Probably the most entertaining character of them all. He made me laugh more than once as he questioned literally *everything*, much to the chagrin of many of the characters, up to and including Pallas Athene herself.

Still, for all that, there is just an overwhelming sense of weird' in this book. I'd also describe and recommend it to anyone who enjoys Distopian stories, though it isn't your traditional 'humans blew up the world and now the survivors are trying to survive/remake it' novel.

SPPL_MattM Apr 19, 2018

People are transported from time periods spanning all of human history in order to play out an experiment in creating Plato's Republic, in which philopher kings are the decision makers for "The Just City". Interesting thought experiment, but it didn't have enough action to really grab me. Recommend to anyone interested in Plato, Classical Mythology, Philosophy, etc.

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sgcf
Mar 30, 2017

I wanted to like this book, nominated for the Canada Reads 2017 longlist. Although I kept on reading, the writing felt stiffly artificial, but I guess that’s what this speculative fiction regarding a timeless experimental city was all about. The detached attitudes toward rape and infanticide were particularly galling to me, given that this city was established to produce citizens who truly understand Truth and pursue excellence. However, the plot accelerated toward the end with the most engaging character for me, Socrates, and his cross-examination of Athena to get at the morality of the whole concept of The Just City.

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morrich
Mar 12, 2016

I enjoyed this book and the ideas that were discussed in it. It is a very intelligent book that makes one think, but it is still an easy read. It is "elegant in its simplicity".

Vero_biblio Sep 08, 2015

The Goddess Athena sets all the required conditions to establish the Just City, as described by Plato in his dialog The Republic. Five years in, in appearances, the experience is successful, but when Sokrates arrives in the city he exposes the unmet needs and desires of the inhabitants, including the ones of the awakening consciousness of the workers (robots from the future brought in to do the heavy work). The story comprises of many philosophical dialogues between the masters and 'the children', all of whom are seeking to attain excellence and justice. A very interesting and entertaining read for people interested in ancient Greece and in the nature of volition and human nature.

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mexicanadiense
Jul 14, 2015

This was the first book by Jo Walton I'd ever read, and perhaps I let the "Award Winner" buzz on the dust jacket overcook my expectations.

Quick synopsis: Olympian Gods attempt to create Plato's Republic on Earth by grabbing famous Platonists (except, em, Plato) throughout history and "rescuing" 10,000 Greek-speaking 10 year-old children from slavery to serve as the living clay from which the society can be moulded, and a bunch of robots from the far future (because the Gods exist "outside time") to do all the manual labour. Unsurprisingly, things do not go according to plan.

Don't get me wrong: I didn't actively dislike the novel, but neither did I ever particularly warm to the "POV" characters or find the plot particularly engaging. Sokrates doing his whole "gadfly" thing was a hoot, it must be said, but he is not one of the 3 POV characters narrating the story and thus we only ever experience his thinking second-hand, as it were, via the young idealists Simmea and Maia and the immortal God Apollo (definitely one of the least relatable protagonists one could imagine), who has decided to slum it in human form for one lifetime in order to learn about "equal significance".

On the whole the book was probably at its strongest when pondering the many vexing practicalities of bringing Plato's Republic to life, and at its worst when dwelling on the interpersonal relationships between the Masters and Children.

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JON MANN
Mar 22, 2015

Excellent introduction to Plato's "Republic". I am now in the process of reading all Jo Walton's books in the local library.

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shortrach
Jan 10, 2015

Bravely absurd plot, lots of fun.

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Mar 12, 2016

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